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Obama Needs a Female VP, Should Select Hillary
By zenprise - Monday, August 4th, 2008 at 3:40 PM
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Politico.com posted an article today explaining why it is likely that McCain will let Obama make the first vp selection.  The reasoning is fairly clear - if you can wait for the other guy (and thereby have more information to make your decision), why not?  The Republican convention is a week after the Democratic convention, so McCain will probably make his selection either at or immediately before his acceptance.

Why does this matter?  It really comes down to two issues. 

First, the marriage of convenience between staunch Hillary supporters and the Obama campaign is fragile at best.  If Obama were to pick Bayh or Kaine as his running mate, it would create an opening for McCain to select someone like Gov. Sarah Palin in order to peel away some of the women's vote.  It's important to remember that while women are often referred to as a minority, they are actually the majority in terms of population in this country.  Obama may be leading by 10-15% among women, but a 5% dip from those numbers could (and probably would) be the difference in the election between an Obama or McCain win.

Pundits make a lot of Obama's poll numbers and ask why he is only 3-5 points ahead right now.  It's very early in the election cycle, and so that's not really a fair critique (but the MSM is rarely deterred by fairness).  Where was Obama against Hillary at this point last year?  What has been constant in the polls, and tends to be a better indicator, is that McCain has not been able to break 44%.  All the variance seems to be in Obama's poll numbers.  McCain basically has a ceiling to his numbers, so the only way that he can win is by pulling Obama's numbers down.  This brings us to the second but equally important reason to select Hillary.  We all got a preview of the fall campaign last week, and it became glaringly apparent that if Obama is to win, he's going to need a strong attack dog to push back on McCain's frivolous ads.

Who better to play the part?  The phrase "now the fun begins" still haunts Obama supporters to this day.  Clinton truly seems to relish a political dogfight, and actually performs better in those conditions.  Having her at his side would leave Obama free to be the political rock star that he is, while Clinton and her allies can do their hatchet job on McCain.  She can be his Dick Cheney.

The VP candidate typically disappears after the convention and only resurfaces at a national level at the lone vice presidential debate.  For political junkies who watched each of the 200 or so Democratic primary debates, it was pretty clear that the best debater on the stage was Hillary Clinton.  There is no one in serious contention for the number two spot that can come close to her. 

Some have argued that having a black man and a woman on the same ticket is too much change for America.  The reality though is that for those people for whom this is an issue, "black man" is probably enough to keep them from voting for the Democratic ticket.  Even if it does suppress Obama's numbers among white men, that was going to happen anyways, and Dems were going to lose white men no matter who was on the ticket (top or bottom).  The opportunity for positive gains among other constituencies however is very compelling: women, latinos, blue collar workers and the elderly.  The last two groups are especially important.  Blue collar workers are McCain's primary targets for increasing his base of support, and the elderly really are his base.  Cutting off the first and cutting into the second will make it impossible for McCain to win.

For those who think that Clinton muddies the "change" message of the Obama campaign, consider this:  How many women have been President or Vice President?  As long as the Obama campaign gets out ahead of the media and defines her as change personified, this shouldn't be a problem.  And there will be plenty of women to support this meme.  It's also important to remember that the VP doesn't dictate policy, they help execute it.  Obama supporters have already won that battle by getting him the nomination.

There is only one clear risk to selecting Hillary, and that is Bill.  It's not his off the cuff style of speaking - that may actually be helpful against a Republican - but rather that he has made a lot of money in the past decade and will be under intense scrutiny if Hillary is selected.  If Hillary is serious about the job, she is going to have to be proactive in dumping the information during the Olympics when it'll get the least coverage.  If there's nothing scandalous in his post-presidential record, Bill Clinton is still immensely popular, and dispatching him to the interior of the country could really help Obama.  If there are some scandals waiting in President Clinton's recent history, well, Africa is probably a wonderful place to spend September and October...

If the Obama Campaign wants to select Hillary, the beauty is that they can wait all the way to the convention.  Hillary Clinton is set to give an historic speech at the convention on the 88th anniversary of the signing of the 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote.  It would be the perfect time to announce her candidacy as the VP nominee.  It is hard to imagine Evan Bayh or Tim Kaine getting up on stage the next day and not attracting jeers or negative comparisons.  Outside of Obama, no one will electrify that crowd like Hillary.  Don't forget that she received 18 million votes from Democrats.

I have never been a Bill or Hillary Clinton fan, and it is for this reason that I volunteered my time and money during the primary to get Obama the nomination.  But I am a fan of winning.  And with any other choice, it seems like there is a chance for Obama to lose.  After the primaries were over, I hoped that there would be enough separation between Obama and McCain to make this selection unnecessary, but that hasn't happened.  Obama / Clinton '08!

A couple of important announcements...First, happy 47th birthday, Barack! Second, we'll be announcing the winner of the veepstakes tomorrow morning, so check back!



Read zenprise’s Last Article: 2008 US Election - Southern States Predictions and Spread

 


Discussion:

 

Sorry. Hilary has been far too negative, and not forthcoming and helpful so far. She wants to gets something in return for her help. After her negativity, she should ask for redemption instead. Bill is so upset that he yesterday threaten to reveal what he really thinks (…the truth!... he said) after the election. I loved him before, when he was persecuted. I loved for his intelligence and easy going. He could have been a friend. But he has been slick recently. And he will be unpredictable in the Whitehouse. Just imagine: how can Obama feel at ease and concentrate on his work with these two in the same building?!

I think she is totally out.

I wish Cabinet post could be announced or leaked at the same period of time Weep is made public. So, she should have an important position: health care for example.

Wesley Clark, look at his face and smile: he is clear. He is the most clear of all. HC is the most composed.  And his attack on McCain was very justified and rational. Dems are really weak sometimes!

Anyway, à chacun son opinion n’ est-ce-pas?

[ Posted at 12:05 AM on 8/5/08 | Reply ]

 

Frenchyeddy - I have heard about Bill’s new tantrum. Poor Bill. Choking and begging for attention – again. He just doesn’t get it, does he? A former – former – President who cannot come to terms with his own inability to pay off his own debt to his own commander in chief  (Hillary)… How sad is that…
 
Zenprise - Bill & Hill would come as a package. Bill & Hill are the past. They embody that very sort of politics the Dems have demanded to get rid of by choosing Barack Obama. Not Hillary Clinton. Not Billary Clinton.
A part from the fact that I cannot see what Hillary has achieved in her political career to make her a particularly valid choice, if Obama went gaga and put her/them on the ticket, he would make a potentially fatal mistake, thus compromising his own reputation and disappointing all those people he has managed to wake up by showing them that there might be a way out, a different way – a better, cleaner way. He has managed to get them involved! Do you honestly believe that all these people = his people (who put him where he is) would welcome his decision to give the VP post to… the Clintons - of all people?! After all their mischief?  Don’t you think he would be seen as another marionette? Another sad, old shadow from the past so many voters are fed up with?
All right – some, or even lots of her supporters would probably vote for him – but would they respect him? Which of course leads to the most important question: probably most of his own voters would still vote for him - but would they still respect him?
Finally – what a great debate it would be, the day McCain or his cronies should ask her (preferably live) what has made her change her mind about the very same candidate she a few months before had repeatedly mocked as an ineligible, inexperienced, dangerous fairy tale – Oh, no, sorry. “Fairy tale” is what Bill said… His wife just supplied the adjectives…
But you do have a point. Send Bill to Africa. Or even better – to Mars.
[ Posted at 3:06 PM on 8/5/08 | Reply ]

Some are forgetting a very key point. The VP selection doesn't matter if Obama doesn't even make it to the White House. I have a feeling that the Obama camp was considering a fairly risky, if not outlandish, choice and is now reconsidering with the sobering tie polls that have been coming out.

Obama's path to 270 is risky. He can neglect Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. He can lose all of them and go for a western strategy. The problem with that is if he puts too much stake in the west, and loses one or two of the western states he was seriously contesting, he loses the election.

He can go for the big electoral votes and focus on Ohio and Florida. He can combine western and Ohio or Florida or Virginia. However, the Republican attack machine is out in full force and yes, a lot of their crap is sticking.

I have supported Obama since before he announced his candidacy. My support for Hillary as VP is not because I supported her in the primary. It is because I know Obama will face a difficult if not improbable run if he doesn't chose someone who can reach constituents in the key states.

Hillary will open the door to blue collar, women, and senior voters in: Michigan, Ohio, and Florida. She can widen the margin of women and hispanics in Florida. She can open the door to securing Arkansas's 6 elecotral votes. She might even help secure South Dakota.

Let's stop judging Hillary on Bill's merits and look to her as the partner in this fight to change the world.

36 million cracks in the glass ceilings of gender and racial barriers. Don't discount 18 million of them.

 

The other problem with trying to get a true "change" candidate is that they all have high cons:

Kathleen Sebelius- Even though she is my personal favorite and I think, a very strong candidate in the future, HRC supporters will feel even more disenfranchised with her on the ticket. Plus, no national security and a big plus for McCain.

Tim Kaine- no national security, a big plus for McCain

Evan Bayh- a bland choice- I don't see the same message in Bayh as I do in Obama.

 

Hillary and Obama together is change through and through.

[ Posted at 12:39 AM on 8/6/08 | Reply ]

joe: I'm not that much of an idealist, so if it really is as close as people think, and if Hillary actually helps Obama, so be it.  I'm just not convinced that we're there yet.  Let's wait till the Olympics are nearly over to see where Obama stands.

[ Posted at 7:13 AM on 8/6/08 | Reply ]


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